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Niles Alleys


Niles has some alleys that are really streets. They are in legal limbo where the City of Fremont asserts that when they annexed the area that these were somehow left out. Google and Mapquest acknowledge that these are streets, the City of Fremont does not.

This group is for those interested in the upkeep or promotion of these unique alleys.

 


In 1994 a group of us did some research into the ownership issue: The City claims that they do not own the alleys because they did not accept them from Alameda County at the time of City incorporation. Alameda County made a list of all streets and public properties that it was going to give to Fremont. Fremont countered this offering, from Alameda County with an additional list of streets that it would not accept. The Alleys in Niles were NOT on either list. The City makes the statement that they do not own them, based on this? This implies that Alameda County still owns them. In 1994 the Alameda County Real Estate Department made it very clear that the Alleys in Niles were given to Fremont at the time of incorporation.

So, the City claims that they do not own the alleys! That is like getting married and then at a later date claiming that " you weren't aware that your spouse's left arm was part of the marriage", and you do not accept responsibility for it.

When the City says that they do not own the alleys…why do we believe them?

The City should be celebrating and promoting the use of the Alleys, but what happens instead, is denial.

Paul Welschmeyer <paulwelschmeyer@yahoo.com>


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Creating Alley Day

If our town and business owners could ralley together and try just one alley, (let the homeowners and business owners petition which one with Main Street Assoc.... i.e. "Why my Alley"), it could set the trend for the others and this could get accomplished over a period of time, one alley a year or every other year if that's too much on everyone to organize.

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I am very interested in your project and would dedicate some time. See all 2 replies
 
I am very interested in your project and would dedicate some time. I was also interested in developing a history of the alleys in terms of interactions with the City so that I can be as informed as possible when I approach them to do some work. Could we plan a meeting ASAP? My house is under construction and would not be an appropriate place. Should I email the people who have responded already and see if they want to meet at the Nile this weekend?
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Posted – 09/11/05 9:20am by Lynn R Slater, updated or replied 09/11/05 9:42am
 
Hardest part is the maintenance
 
Being one who has tried to maintain her "part" of the alley (Victory Lane at J), I have to say that the hardest part is the maintenance... and the watering of plants. Remember that BFI uses the alley's - perhaps they could somehow contribute to their maintenance. Their truck drove over the ages-old rosemary bush that sat at this corner, and I probably have made it worse by trying to take out all the dead wood (although it was kind of pretty when the nasturtiams were growing on what is left...). Years ago, Matt Edwards laid a soaker hose back there, and that has helped in the watering area, as long as I can remember to hook a hose up to it at least biweekly. But, since I did this myself, I take ownership for it, and I get pleasure from seeing it at least somewhat planted. While I applaud the effort suggested, there will have to be some ownership for maintenance.
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Posted – 09/11/05 9:30am by Lynn R Slater
 

Developing a History of the Alleys

I was also interested in developing a history of the alleys in terms of interactions with the City so that I can be as informed as possible when I approach them to do some work.  Could we plan a meeting ASAP?  My house is under construction and would not be an appropriate place.  Should I email the people who have responded already and see if they want to meet at the Nile this
weekend?

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Legal limbo blocks improvements See all 5 replies
 
Some years ago I had a wonderful Alley Cottage designed for a local resident which used the Alley for required parking access - as is has been used for the past 100 years.
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Posted – 09/11/05 9:23am by Lynn R Slater, updated or replied 09/11/05 9:40am
 
Paving was promised 25 years ago See reply
 
Many many years ago, probably 20-25 years ago, during one of the many revelopment districts that Niles has belonged to, the alley's were supposed to be paved. As property owners next to the alley by the fire department we actually had a letter from the city stating that. But instead they put curbs on 2nd and 3rd St and then totally ignored the streets like H, I and J etc who never got curbs or drainage either. No on at the city ever remembers things like this, because "it must happened before I came" and therefore is invalid.
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Posted – 09/11/05 9:16am by Lynn R Slater, updated or replied 09/11/05 9:16am
 
Asked for help 10-12 years ago
 
About 10-12 years ago a bunch of us in Niles asked the City to help maintain the alleys. There had been problems with emergency services because those who lived on the alleys had addresses of the main streets. So to solve that problem the City named the alleys but insisted that they were private property. Note the "Private" on the signs...
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Posted – 09/11/05 9:10am by Lynn R Slater
 
What is the deal is with the alleys? See reply
 
It looks like the town is on the cusp of really turning into something even better but I wanted to know what the deal is with the alleys? Why are they not paved or maintained to a higher level? Can the fire dept easily access homes along the alley in an emergency?
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Posted – 09/11/05 9:00am by Lynn R Slater, updated or replied 09/11/05 9:02am
 

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Paving See all 4 replies
 
I just purchased a home, and have rented for three years, on Iron Horse Lane. I was asking a friend who had lived on the same street for many years the same question you have posed here. He said that the city has always treated it as the responsibility of the homeowners on the alleyways. But, I think it is time that the city realize that it is in their best interest to pave. I have commented before that, in a one year time period on my block, two cars were hit (including my own), my gate was hit, the library was hit, and another building was hit. People tend to drive too fast because they like the gravel or are trying to avoid main streets. They often hit rather large dips and probably lose control. I have named one seasonal puddle "Lake Iron Horse." The condition gets worse each year. Just adding gravel has caused the roads to be too high, allowing water run-off to flow into properties.
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Posted – 09/11/05 9:06am by Lynn R Slater, updated or replied 09/11/05 9:25am
 

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